From: "Frank and Lois Richardson" <LandFRichardson@email.msn.com>
Subject: [TRIMBLE-L] Re: Birth date of William James Trimble, son of James Trimble and Sarah Hinton; buried Fayette County, TX
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:34:32 -0000
In reference to the letter far below, from Eugene E. Trimble:
I have now examined the original Bible, kept by the son, Francis Marion
Trimble, son of William James Trimble and his wife, Lucy A. M. Thames
Skidmore Trimble. The Bible is in the possession of Billy Joe Haney, former
Sheriff of Menard County, TX 24 years, and he is a descendant of Josie
Trimble.
The date of William James Trimble's birth is very plain, and must have been
entered by his son, Francis Marion Trimble. This would mean that William
James was 68 approximately, when he fought as a vounteer to stop the
Mexicans from invading a Texas that was supposedly already independent from
Mexico. He and the others were left to die or to suffer in the prison in
Mexico after being captured, and many did not survive the stay. With U.S.
intervention a couple of years later, some of the captives were released,
and returned to their homes, including the son of the fighting Baptist
missionary, Morrill. Morrill, Sr., also fought when he was forced to to so
to protect his home, his state, and the churches that he had established,
and he was old. He wrote a book later, and this was a sad chapter. The
book is for sale at the Baptist Museum at Independence, Texas, a still
active church, where Sam Houston was baptised.
Morrill happened upon the battlefield, with other soldiers, a while after
the battle, and was able to identify the dead soldiers, including Edward
Trimble, and to see that his own son must have been captured. His son did
survive the imprisonment, and came home with some of the other captives, and
could ascertain that the diaries kept by James Glasscock and two
others were correct. Glasscock's diary is in the Texas Archives, and I have
a copy of it, and have read every word.
Though Glasscock and Trimble may not have known each other before the
imprisonment, some of the descendants and relatives married each other later
in Menard County, Texas.
The name of William James Trimble's wife who came to Texas with him was
Amelia, and some people think that her maiden name was Wells. He was also
accompanied by his brother, Edward, his mother, Sarah Hinton (Trimble)
(Handley) who later married a Miller in
Texas, and by 4 of his children. The 5th child, Francis Marion Trimble, was
born in Fayette County.
It was not extraordinary for 68 year old men, or any others who could load a
rifle, to fight for their homes and families in Texas during this period.
They were no soldiers in the strict sense of the word, but volunteers who
met under the oak tree at the courthouse, and went to the aid of other
Texans under siege by the Mexican armies.
I have some doubts, since seeing the Bible, if William James was married
only once.
He and Sarah Hinton had children; one seemed to have been born on the way to
Texas, and
Francis Marion Trimble was the youngest, and could not have remembered his
father. This only made 5 children for them, though; a comparatively small
family for those days. If William
James had been born in 1790-1800, he would have been 39 to 49, still old
enough to be supporting a second family.
William James and his family lived in Fayette County, Texas; some
descendants later moved
to western Texas counties, including Menard, Kimble, Pecos, and Upton, among
others.
The only other possibility that I can envision is that the father of William
James Trimble was also named William James. As far as I can determine,
William James Trimble is the son
of James Trimble of Sullivan County, IN. The date given by Eugene Trimble
below, stating that he was 30 to 40 years old in 1830 would make William
James Trimble
born in 1790-1800. Other information previously given on his father, James,
stated that he fought Indians and in the Revolution in Kentucky. So, it
seems that it would have been physically possible for the James who was in
Kentucky in the Revolution to have fathered William James Trimble in 1776,
or any time up until this 1800 cut-off date.
What do you think?
Lois Perry Richardson, daughter of Elva Ellen Trimble
-----Original Message-----
From: Eugene E. Trimble <eetlivcoky@erols.com>
To: LandFRichardson@email.msn.com <LandFRichardson@email.msn.com>
Date: Friday, December 11, 1998 5:05 AM
Subject: Birth date
> I do not have the answer to your question regarding the date of
>birth of your "William James Trimble". The only evidence of the
>date of birth, that I have seen, is the 1830 census of Sullivan Co.,
>IN, in which it states William Trimble was between 30 and 40 years
>of age. This indicates he was born between 1790 and 1800.
> It is highly unlikely he was born in 1776 since he was a soldier
>in 1844. He would have been 68 years old while in a strenuous
>Military Expedition!
> The birth date of 1776 appears in an old Bible? What are the
>other entries appearing on this same page? I would be interested in
>seeing a zerox copy of this Bible page to see the context in which
>it appears. Does the Bible entry give his wife's name?
>Eugene E. Trimble
NOTE; THERE WERE NO OTHER ENTRIES ON THE PAGE OF THE ENTRY ON WILLIAM
JAMES. I WILL SEND THE OTHER DATES WHEN I CAN GET LEGIBLE COPIES OF THE
PAGES.
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