Turnbull Clan Genealogy Collection
John Turnbull
M, #61244, b. 23 November 1806, d. 19 July 1888
| Last Edited | 13 July 2025 |
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Parents
| Father | Alexander Robert Turnbull, Sr. (b. 1762, d. 1809) |
| Mother | Helen Ellen Brydon (b. 2 November 1773, d. 28 October 1843) |
BMDB Events
| Burial | John Turnbull was buried in Elmira, Stark County, Illinois, United States of America.1 |
| Birth | He was born on 23 November 1806 in Roxburghshire, Scotland. |
| Marriage | He married Margaret Oliver on 7 February 1833 in Lochcarron, Rosshire, Scotland. John Turnbull was, age 26, Margaret Oliver was, age 16. |
| Death | He died on 19 July 1888 at age 81 in Stark, Illinois, United States. |
| Burial (fam) | He was buried at Elmira Cemetery in Elmira, Stark, Illinois, United States.2 |
Other Life Events
| Anecdote | In Historical accounts and family members references, this gentleman as " Uncle Johnnie". The first of the brothers to actually arrive in America via Canada, in June 1837, bringing with him his widowed mother Ellen. John and Margaret never had children of their own. They raised the following other family members, and orphans; nephew William B. son of brother Robert and his wife Margaret Graham, Henry Hall Oliver, Margaret's little brother, Lusetta Woodward, orphan, who married a Murray, as a widow she married David Turnbull son of William and CatherineTurnbull . Luzette Woodward, orphaned at age three, was the daughter of Smith and Sara Woodward. Jane, Thomas, Mary Ann, and William Oliver Rule, these children were the orphans of Robert and Charlotte (Oliver ) Rule, she was the daughter of Thomas Oliver and Margaret Fife and sister to Margaret, Johns wife. Robert and Charlotte died at a very young age. Mary and Martha "Mattie" Phalen were orphans, I found nothing on their parents. 1880 census shows John a farmer, his wife Margaret keeping house and Martha "Mattie" Phalen still with them age 15 years. 1880 census for William Oliver Rule, was born 28 August 1850 in Elmira, Illinois, his parents Robert Thomas Rule and mother Charlotte Oliver. Married Anna Buckley Kay September 22, 1869 in Elmira and his death is recorded as 24 July 1933 in Ottawa, Franklin county, Kansas. Gail Turnbull Bell states; "The Elmira Centennial & Scottish Pioneers 1838-1938 written by Dr. John H. Oliver, Chairman says in reference to John Turnbull (TCA #52944) that "His brother Robert came to Stark County in the winter of 1838-39. He bought land about one mile east of Elmira, now the Orville Murray farm and lived there until his death November 23, 1874, at the age of seventy-five years. Among his children were William B, Thomas, John G., Sophia, and Helen born in Scotland--Robert, James, Adam & George after coming to America." Speaking of John Turnbull again--Dr. Oliver says: He and his wife had no children of their own, but his nephew, William B Turnbull, and her brother, Henry Oliver, lived with them for years and they reared the following orphans: Lusetta Woodward, Jane, Thomas, Anna & William Rule, and Mary and Mattie Phelan.""3 |
Family: Margaret Oliver (b. 18 April 1816, d. 8 February 1890)
Citations
- [S29797] Ancestry.com, U.S., Find a Grave® Index, 1600s-Current
- [S1945] Gail Turnbull-Bell, "E-Mail from Gail Turnbull-Bell," e-mail message from email address (Paola, KS) to Janet Turnbull Schwierking, 2012 - 2013, Pictures from the Elmira Stark Co Illinois Cemetery. The Turnbull Monument for John Turnbull & his wife, Margaret Oliver Turnbull is very impressive. They had no children and at one point helped to raise Wm B. http://www.illinoisancestors.org/cemphotos/v/stark/elmira/?g2_page=6. Hereinafter cited as "E-Mail - Gail Turnbull-Bell."
- [S1945] Gail Turnbull-Bell, "E-Mail from Gail Turnbull-Bell," e-mail message from email address (Paola, KS) to Janet Turnbull Schwierking, 2012 - 2013. Hereinafter cited as "E-Mail - Gail Turnbull-Bell."
Alexander Robert Turnbull, Sr.
M, #61245, b. 1762, d. 1809
| Last Edited | 13 July 2025 |
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Parents
| Father | Alexander Turnbull (b. 1731) |
| Mother | Eleanor Storey |
BMDB Events
| Birth | Alexander Robert Turnbull, Sr., was born in 1762 in Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England.1 |
| Christening | He was christened on 10 October 1762 at All Saints in Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England.2 |
| Marriage | He married Helen Ellen Brydon about 1793 in Roxburghshire, Scotland. Alexander Robert Turnbull, Sr., was, age ~31, Helen Ellen Brydon was, age ~20. |
| Death | He died in 1809 at age ~47 in Newcastleton, Roxburghshire, Scotland. |
| Burial | He was buried at Ettleton Cemetery in Scotland. |
Other Life Events
| Baptism | Alexander Robert Turnbull, Sr., was baptized on 10 October 1762 in All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England.3,4 |
| Military | He served in the military between 1779 and 1783. served in the British army 1779- 1783. Robert was a soldier under General Elliott participated in the siege of Gibraltar5,6 |
| Anecdote | In a search of the LDS database, there was found a Robert born 24 November 1762 in Bedrule, Roxburghshire who died in 1807, father given as William C117825 no confirmation that this is the same Robert listed in these pages. Insearching for Ettleton, Newcastleton, it was found as a border area where many Turnbull, Oliver and Rule headstones are located.. A search of the local parishes might find some records which were not destroyed by the British. Historical references for this family. Biographical: History of Turnbull, Rule and Oliver. History of Starke County, Illinois, Starke County and it's Pioneer's. Atlas of Starke County, Illinois. Data from Henry county, Illinois. History of Jasper county, Iowa. Additional note information: Alexander's nephew emigrated to America in 1852 stopping in Oswego, New York. William H. Turnbull and his wife Mary Hume are being added to the family history. The names of the parents for Alexander or William are unknown. |
Family: Helen Ellen Brydon (b. 2 November 1773, d. 28 October 1843)
| Son | Francis Frank Turnbull (b. 1795) |
| Son | William Turnbull, Shepherd And Farmer+ (b. 12 April 1798, d. 12 July 1882) |
| Son | Robert Alexander Turnbull, II+ (b. 2 November 1798, d. 10 November 1874) |
| Son | John Turnbull (b. 23 November 1806, d. 19 July 1888) |
Citations
- [S704] Janet Turnbull Schwierking, compiler, TCA Family History Records (Texas: Turnbull Clan Association, March 2006), An earlier entry into the database was made for Alexander and his wife Ellen/Helen by an unknown person. Source data from Marjorie Radford, Phyllis Paxton, Michael Winn and R. Gladson Turnbull. Hereinafter cited as TCA Family Histories.
- [S2132] FamilySearch, online https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPWP-RCVD, England, Northumberland, Parish Registers, 1538-1950. Hereinafter cited as FamilySearch. Name: Alexander Turnbull Event Type: Christening Event Date: 10 Oct 1762 Event Place: All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England, United Kingdom Gender: Male Father's Name: Alexander Turnbull
- [S29976] Ancestry.com, England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
- [S30733] Ancestry.com, England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980
- [S704] Janet Turnbull Schwierking, compiler, TCA Family History Records (Texas: Turnbull Clan Association, March 2006), In a note from Anita Vogel, to Marjorie Radford, Anita states that; " Alexander or Robert served in the British army 1779- 1783. Hereinafter cited as TCA Family Histories.
- [S704] Janet Turnbull Schwierking, compiler, TCA Family History Records (Texas: Turnbull Clan Association, March 2006), From Biography and Reminiscence, book title unknown : it states," Robert was a soldier under General Elliott participated in the siege of Gibraltar and after his honorable discharge from the British army , he married and engaged in farming.". Hereinafter cited as TCA Family Histories.
Helen Ellen Brydon1
F, #61246, b. 2 November 1773, d. 28 October 1843
| Last Edited | 13 July 2025 |
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BMDB Events
| Birth | Helen Ellen Brydon was born on 2 November 1773 in Scotland.2,1 |
| Marriage | She married Alexander Robert Turnbull, Sr., about 1793 in Roxburghshire, Scotland. Helen Ellen Brydon was, age ~20, Alexander Robert Turnbull, Sr., was, age ~31. |
| Death | She died on 28 October 1843 at age 69 in Elmira, Stark, Illinois, United States.2 |
| Burial | She was buried in 1882 at Elmira Cemetery in Elmira, Stark, Illinois, United States. On her tombstone she is named as Ellen, she was buried originally in the old Osceola Grove cemetery and the body was later moved to the new Elmira cemetery. |
Other Life Events
| Immigration | Helen Ellen Brydon immigrated in 1837. Widow Ellen / Helen came to America with son John |
Family: Alexander Robert Turnbull, Sr., (b. 1762, d. 1809)
| Son | Francis Frank Turnbull (b. 1795) |
| Son | William Turnbull, Shepherd And Farmer+ (b. 12 April 1798, d. 12 July 1882) |
| Son | Robert Alexander Turnbull, II+ (b. 2 November 1798, d. 10 November 1874) |
| Son | John Turnbull (b. 23 November 1806, d. 19 July 1888) |
Citations
- [S29797] Ancestry.com, U.S., Find a Grave® Index, 1600s-Current
- [S787] Donna Smith, "E-Mail from Donna Smith," e-mail message from email address (Denver, Co.) to Brian Turnbull, July 2006. Hereinafter cited as "E-Mail - Donna Smith."
Margaret Oliver
F, #61247, b. 18 April 1816, d. 8 February 1890
| Last Edited | 25 May 2017 |
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Parents
| Father | Thomas F. Oliver, Sr. (b. 4 May 1785, d. 9 January 1867) |
| Mother | Margaret Fife (b. 23 April 1791, d. 28 May 1858) |
BMDB Events
| Birth | Margaret Oliver was born on 18 April 1816 in Roxburghshire, Scotland. |
| Marriage | She married John Turnbull on 7 February 1833 in Lochcarron, Rosshire, Scotland. Margaret Oliver was, age 16, John Turnbull was, age 26. |
| Death | She died on 8 February 1890 at age 73 in Stark, Illinois, United States. |
| Burial (fam) | She was buried at Elmira Cemetery in Elmira, Stark, Illinois, United States.1 |
Family: John Turnbull (b. 23 November 1806, d. 19 July 1888)
Citations
- [S1945] Gail Turnbull-Bell, "E-Mail from Gail Turnbull-Bell," e-mail message from email address (Paola, KS) to Janet Turnbull Schwierking, 2012 - 2013, Pictures from the Elmira Stark Co Illinois Cemetery. The Turnbull Monument for John Turnbull & his wife, Margaret Oliver Turnbull is very impressive. They had no children and at one point helped to raise Wm B. http://www.illinoisancestors.org/cemphotos/v/stark/elmira/?g2_page=6. Hereinafter cited as "E-Mail - Gail Turnbull-Bell."
Francis Frank Turnbull
M, #61248, b. 1795
| Last Edited | 13 July 2025 |
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Parents
| Father | Alexander Robert Turnbull, Sr. (b. 1762, d. 1809) |
| Mother | Helen Ellen Brydon (b. 2 November 1773, d. 28 October 1843) |
BMDB Events
| Birth | Francis Frank Turnbull was born in 1795 in Roxburghshire, Scotland. |
Other Life Events
| Anecdote | Data from Marjorie Radford: Quotes a remarks from a letter by Anita Vogel "Frank remained in Scotland when the others of the family emigrated to America. It is know that he served at the Battle of Waterloo." Frank is not a common name in Scotland in this era..Could mean Francis/ Frances. |
William Turnbull, Shepherd And Farmer1,2,3,4,5,6,2,7,8,9,2
M, #61249, b. 12 April 1798, d. 12 July 1882
| Last Edited | 13 July 2025 |
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William Thomas Turnbull
Parents
| Father | Alexander Robert Turnbull, Sr. (b. 1762, d. 1809) |
| Mother | Helen Ellen Brydon (b. 2 November 1773, d. 28 October 1843) |
BMDB Events
| Birth | William Turnbull, Shepherd And Farmer, was born on 12 April 1798 in Scotland.10,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 |
| Marriage | He married Mary Harvey Hervie Hervey on 2 February 1821 in Langholm, Dumfrieshire, Scotland. William Turnbull, Shepherd And Farmer, was, age 22, Mary Harvey Hervie Hervey was, age ~20.11 |
| Death | He died on 12 July 1882 at age 84 in Elmira Twp, Stark, Illinois, USA.10,4,5 |
| Burial | He was buried after 12 July 1882 at Elmira Cemetery in Elmira, Stark, Illinois, United States.12 |
Other Life Events
| Residence | William Turnbull, Shepherd And Farmer, lived in Lochcarron, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland, in 1841.9 |
| Immigration | He immigrated in 1849 to Elmira, Stark, Illinois, United States, at North of.13 |
| Residence | He lived Occupation: Farmer in Stark, Illinois, USA, in 1850.6 |
| Residence | He lived Occupation: Farmer in Elmira, Elmira, Stark, Illinois, USA, in 1860.7 |
| Residence | He lived Occupation: Farmer in Elmira, Elmira, Stark, Illinois, USA, in 1870.8 |
| Census | He appeared in the census in 1880 in Elmira, Stark, Illinois, United States. William Sr. is 82 years old and living with his son William and daughter-in-law14 |
| Residence | He lived Occupation: Shepherd; Marital Status: Widower; Relation to Head of House: Father in Elmira, Stark, Illinois, USA, in 1880.3 |
Family: Mary Harvey Hervie Hervey (b. 1801, d. 12 February 1873)
| Son | Robert Harvey Turnbull+ (b. 1 December 1821, d. 10 November 1898) |
| Son | George Turnbull (b. 21 January 1823, d. 18 June 1850) |
| Son | James A. Turnbull+ (b. 24 September 1824, d. 10 November 1905) |
| Daughter | Helen Turnbull+ (b. 1 August 1826, d. 2 December 1860) |
| Son | John Harvey Turnbull+ (b. 22 September 1830, d. 8 May 1915) |
| Daughter | Elizabeth Turnbull+ (b. 18 November 1830, d. 9 May 1913) |
| Son | Alexander "Sandy" Turnbull+ (b. 7 August 1832, d. 9 February 1901) |
| Daughter | Margaret (Morgan) Turnbull+ (b. 22 April 1834, d. 17 February 1872) |
| Daughter | Stephena Turnbull+ (b. 13 April 1836, d. 12 December 1893) |
| Son | William Turnbull+ (b. 29 December 1837, d. 9 March 1900) |
| Son | Thomas Turnbull+ (b. about 1841, d. 15 March 1900) |
Citations
- [S29661] Ancestry.com, Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910
- [S29687] Ancestry.com, Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
- [S29844] Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1880 United States Federal Census, Year: 1880; Census Place: Elmira, Stark, Illinois; Roll: 252; Page: 346b; Enumeration District: 275
- [S33762] Ancestry.com, Web: Illinois, U.S., Select Deaths Index, 1877-1916, Illinois State Archive; Springfield, IL, USA; Illinois Statewide Death Index, Pre-1916; URL: https://apps.ilsos.gov//isavital/deathsrch.jsp
- [S29797] Ancestry.com, U.S., Find a Grave® Index, 1600s-Current
- [S29871] Ancestry.com, 1850 United States Federal Census, The National Archives in Washington, DC; Record Group: Records of the Bureau of the Census; Record Group Number: 29; Series Number: M432; Residence Date: 1850; Home in 1850: Stark, Illinois; Roll: 129; Page: 237b
- [S29873] Ancestry.com, 1860 United States Federal Census, The National Archives in Washington D.C.; Record Group: Records of the Bureau of the Census; Record Group Number: 29; Series Number: M653; Residence Date: 1860; Home in 1860: Elmira, Stark, Illinois; Roll: M653_229; Page: 917; Family History Library Film: 803229
- [S29870] Ancestry.com, 1870 United States Federal Census, Year: 1870; Census Place: Elmira, Stark, Illinois; Roll: M593_278; Page: 355B
- [S29701] Ancestry.com, 1841 Scotland Census, Parish: Lochcarron; ED: 1; Page: 3; Line: 850; Year: 1841
- [S787] Donna Smith, "E-Mail from Donna Smith," e-mail message from email address (Denver, Co.) to Brian Turnbull, July 2006. Hereinafter cited as "E-Mail - Donna Smith."
- [S704] Janet Turnbull Schwierking, compiler, TCA Family History Records (Texas: Turnbull Clan Association, March 2006), IGI for Langholm, Dumfrieshire, gives William Turnbull married to Mary Hervey, on 2 February 1821. Hereinafter cited as TCA Family Histories.
- [S1714] ancestery.com, online, http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/31989457/person/18360043296. Hereinafter cited as ancestery.com.
- [S1945] Gail Turnbull-Bell, "E-Mail from Gail Turnbull-Bell," e-mail message from email address (Paola, KS) to Janet Turnbull Schwierking, 2012 - 2013, In the book by Dr. Oliver in the chapter about The Turnbulls it states:"Another brother, William, who was a shepherd in Scotland, left Glascow in 1849 with his wife, Mary Harvey, & their children, ......................& came to Quebec, thence to Chicago & by canal to Peru, Stark County.............". Hereinafter cited as "E-Mail - Gail Turnbull-Bell."
- [S704] Janet Turnbull Schwierking, compiler, TCA Family History Records (Texas: Turnbull Clan Association, March 2006), 1880 census William Sr. is 82 years old and living with his son William and daughter-in-law Catherine, they all lived in Elmira, Illinois. Hereinafter cited as TCA Family Histories.
Robert Alexander Turnbull, II1,2,3,4,5
M, #61250, b. 2 November 1798, d. 10 November 1874
| Last Edited | 14 December 2024 |
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Parents
| Father | Alexander Robert Turnbull, Sr. (b. 1762, d. 1809) |
| Mother | Helen Ellen Brydon (b. 2 November 1773, d. 28 October 1843) |
BMDB Events
| Birth | Robert Alexander Turnbull, II, was born on 2 November 1798 in Roxburghshire, Scotland.6 |
| Marriage | He married Margaret "Ellen" Graham about 1823 in Illinois, United States. Robert Alexander Turnbull, II, was, age ~25, Margaret "Ellen" Graham was, age ~17. |
| Death | He died on 10 November 1874 at age 76 in Elmira, Stark, Illinois, United States.6 |
| Burial | He was buried at Elmira Cemetery, Lot 219, in Elmira, Stark, Illinois, United States. Inscription: aged 76 yrs. 8 dys.6 |
Other Life Events
| Occupation | In 1826 Robert Alexander Turnbull, II, was was known to have been a farmer. In 1826 took a job as a shepherd. |
| Immigration | He immigrated on 14 May 1837 to in Canada. and then to Stark Co. Illinois.7 |
| Residence | He lived in Stark, Illinois, USA, in 1840.2 |
| Residence | He lived at Stark county in Stark, Illinois, United States, in 1850. |
| Residence | He lived at Elmira Township in Stark, Illinois, United States, in 1860. |
| Residence | He lived Occupation: Farmer in Elmira, Elmira, Stark, Illinois, USA, in 1870.4 |
| Anecdote | Marjorie Radford. This is Marjorie's line and she refers to Robert as Robert ll. He settled 1 mile east of Elmira, state of Illinois. Emigrated to America in 1837, along with family members and other Scottish families which intermarried. There is not much information found on this part of the family while in Scotland. Found as a possible birth of Margaret Graham is in Dingwall, Rosshire, with parents James Graham and Elizabeth Mackenzie..IGI batch # C110622. no marriage found, One interesting find was Sophia #1, born 18 August 1833, most likely died at birth, and Sophia #2 born 31 July 1836 both in Westerkirk, Dumfrieshire..also Helen/Ellen born 6 October 1831... In the 1880 census Margaret Graham Turnbull a widow, is living with her daughter Sophia and husband Alexander "Sandy " Turnbull. |
Family: Margaret "Ellen" Graham (b. 10 May 1806, d. 20 February 1881)
| Son | Ned Turnbull (b. 1823, d. 1823) |
| Son | Thomas S. Turnbull+ (b. 7 June 1826, d. 25 April 1853) |
| Son | John Graham Turnbull+ (b. 20 December 1828, d. 5 June 1894) |
| Son | William B. Turnbull+ (b. 26 May 1829, d. 5 December 1901) |
| Daughter | Ellen Turnbull (b. 6 October 1831, d. 1831) |
| Daughter | Sophia Turnbull (b. 8 August 1833, d. 1833) |
| Daughter | Sophia Turnbull+ (b. 5 July 1836, d. 14 September 1900) |
| Son | Robert Alexander Turnbull (b. 2 August 1840, d. 10 January 1841) |
| Son | Robert Alexander Turnbull+ (b. 22 November 1841, d. 11 February 1920) |
| Son | James G. Turnbull (b. 13 February 1844, d. 7 January 1904) |
| Son | Adam Oliver Turnbull+ (b. 4 January 1849) |
| Son | George G. Turnbull (b. 26 August 1850) |
Citations
- [S2715] Ancestry.com, U.S., Find a Grave® Index, 1600s-Current, Find a Grave. Find a Grave®. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi.
- [S4423] Ancestry.com, 1840 United States Federal Census, Year: 1840; Census Place: Stark, Illinois; Roll: 69; Page: 213; Family History Library Film: 0007644, Sixth Census of the United States, 1840. (NARA microfilm publication M704, 580 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
- [S3097] Ancestry.com, 1850 United States Federal Census, The National Archives in Washington, DC; Record Group: Records of the Bureau of the Census; Record Group Number: 29; Series Number: M432; Residence Date: 1850; Home in 1850: Stark, Illinois; Roll: 129; Page: 239a, Seventh Census of the United States, 1850; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M432, 1009 rolls); Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29; National Archives, Washington, D.C.
- [S3099] Ancestry.com, 1870 United States Federal Census, Year: 1870; Census Place: Elmira, Stark, Illinois; Roll: M593_278; Page: 352A,
- 1870 U.S. census, population schedules. NARA microfilm publication M593, 1,761 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.
- Minnesota census schedules for 1870. NARA microfilm publication T132, 13 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.
- [S3095] Ancestry.com, 1860 United States Federal Census, The National Archives in Washington D.C.; Record Group: Records of the Bureau of the Census; Record Group Number: 29; Series Number: M653; Residence Date: 1860; Home in 1860: Elmira, Stark, Illinois; Roll: M653_229; Page: 898; Family History Library Film: 803229, 1860 U.S. census, population schedule. NARA microfilm publication M653, 1,438 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.
- [S1945] Gail Turnbull-Bell, "E-Mail from Gail Turnbull-Bell," e-mail message from email address (Paola, KS) to Janet Turnbull Schwierking, 2012 - 2013, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=turnbull&GSst=16&GSsr=201&GRid=22926904. Hereinafter cited as "E-Mail - Gail Turnbull-Bell."
- [S1945] Gail Turnbull-Bell, "E-Mail from Gail Turnbull-Bell," e-mail message from email address (Paola, KS) to Janet Turnbull Schwierking, 2012 - 2013. Hereinafter cited as "E-Mail - Gail Turnbull-Bell."